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Post by Tracy on Nov 6, 2012 17:36:18 GMT -5
While I still hate the way I was "voted" out, I have to fulfill my duties as a juror. DD, I'm not sure what you did in the game before merge and after merge it was Heidi's deceit and my maneuvering with Yau kept you in the game, so please enlighten everyone on what You did in this game to get to the end. Do you think you'd still be here if you didn't get to use all your prizes at the final four tribal? Do you think Heidi would have chosen you over me since she'd already betrayed her first allies for you? Why should you win over Anthony? His winning immunity challenges is not a valid argument, sorry. Why should Anthony win over you?Anthony, I'd say that Yau and I did a lot to keep you in the game, and I'm not bitter about it. You proved your loyalty right to the end. Which my #1 ally did not, so I give you mucho kudos on that <3 You and I might not have strategized a lot, but Yau and I were in constant talks all game and he was kind of a go between the two of us with details and everything else. So I'm pretty clear on everything you've done. You weren't really secretive this time around. I'll be shocked if I read anything you did that I'm not aware of. I am glad to see Kalahari Anthony back and in the final two. Why should you win over DD? Why should DD win over you?
Both of you, In another game I was in, we were asked to asign ourselves to a Major Arcana. We were allowed to do the whole jury as well if we wanted. I did myself, my final two partner, the host and the juror and I think it helped to win the vote of that juror and maybe one other from the work I put into it. So I'm asking you both to do what I did. Asign a Major Arcana to yourselves, your final two partner, Amanda and the juror. Give small reasons, maybe something in the definition that catches your eye and reminds you of the person. Have fun with this one, include pictures if you'd like
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Arcana
I adore you both but I'm pretty set on how I'm voting. It's not bitter, not with you two, it's just what i have seen. But both of you can easily enlighten me to see a different option. So don't hold back, let me know. I want the winner of my vote to fight for it!
Good luck to you both.
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Post by Tracy on Nov 6, 2012 18:21:17 GMT -5
Edited in one more small item for the two of you, had to get it approved first
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Post by Pimpthony Robinson on Nov 7, 2012 8:03:49 GMT -5
Thanks for your kind words Tracy! It was indeed my plan from the start to play more like the way I did in Kalahari, AKA be less of a control freak and villain. And, even though I think I played more my own game and had my own game plan, I'm happy with the way I played and I'm glad you see the old me in me again! I'll get to your first two questions first; will do the other one later.
Why should you win over DD? Let me first say that I think both of us have played good games that can be called Ultimate-Game-worthy; we've both been strong competitors, we both made the best of the hand that we were dealt with, and we both have a pretty good history overall in this series. We both benefited from people quitting or going MIA, and I think that could have been said about anyone who would have made it to the Final 2. So I'm not going to argue why or how DD is here because of that kind of stuff, because the very same can be said about me. Now, I don't know a whole lot about DD's game (yet) since we've been on opposite sides the entire game, but I can say where I think I did a good job other than in challenges and what I think I did differently than DD. In the end though, it's going to come down to what you as a juror value the most and who you think deserves it more.
First of all, I believe I did more effort to not just keep myself safe, but also to keep my allies in the game. It started with the first vote, which was an utter mess that kept me up until 4.30AM my time in the morning trying to figure out what was going on and trying to save Parvati. I didn't mind to play my triple and put myself in a position without any items to save Brenda. I tried rallying up votes against DD or Heidi when Chelsea's head was on the line, and on several other occasions I tried saving whoever I was close to. I don't think DD's allies were in danger as many times, but the one time they were, she didn't bother to try in the challenge. With this I mean the Final 5 challenge. It was the perfect opportunity for her to get me out, but since she had the idol she posted in the challenge thread that she wouldn't even try. Had she put a serious effort into that, she might have won, and she would have been able to give the idol to someone else, and get me out while saving you and Heidi.
Secondly, I think I had a harder struggle making it here, yet I made it. After the Brenda vote, a lot of things were out of my hands. Firstly, I had no idol or items to save myself or to scare/intimidate (in the positive sense of the word) people. Part of having these powers is their actual effect, but another part is that they make people hesitant about voting them out; a good example would be Coach in South Pacific, who was never voted out simply because he was known to have the idol. Secondly, there was no solid alliance and there were no options for solid alliances that could form a block against the foursome between you/Heidi/DD/Jess. Parvati was set on voting Chelsea out, Michelle and Misty had voted Austin in the round before and weren't willing to take a shot at saving Chelsea, a lot of items were looming on the other side, and there was just no way five out of the six outside of that foursome were willing to vote together. So in order to survive, I had a real struggle. I had to win the immunities or fully rely on the fact that Jess had made a deal with you and Heidi that would keep me safe; but that wouldn't have lasted forever. I worked my butt off in the immunities, even when I didn't have a lot of time on my hands like for the storyteller challenge. In a very short time, I had to pull something off; so out of nowhere I got a pretty appealing and funny idea and won a very crucial immunity. So the fact that I made it even though the Final 11 vote totally didn't go my way and put me without any power, is worth something. DD overcame a 9-2 disadvantage, which is admirable too, but already in the first merge round found herself enough many friends and allies that gave her majority, and she thus, from my point of view had less of a struggle throughout the merge.
Why should DD win over you? Being in control of the game is often seen as a reason to vote for someone to win. DD has had more power in this game than me, she's been part of the controlling alliance throughout the merge, and she's had a hand in putting each and every juror (except Heidi) on the jury which is very telling about the power that she had. I believe I've only had a crucial role in putting Parvati on the jury, but that's all. The fact that she voted so many of you out, might leave some of you bitter, but she did what she had to do and in a way I never had to make such cutthroat decisions. All feelings left aside, in the end it's the better game that counts. If the jury feels that the amount of control over the game and the amount of power someone has had in the game weigh out all the other things making someone the better player, then that's why DD should win.
I will get to your last question later. If you have any follow ups about the other two, let me know!
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Post by Pimpthony Robinson on Nov 7, 2012 17:53:35 GMT -5
Onto your last question! I used another source for the descriptions as I didn't understand some of the wordings on wikipedia (my vocabulary is kinda lacking here sorry). So I based my picks on this site: www.tarotteachings.com/tarot-card-meanings-of-the-major-arcana.html
Amanda - The WorldI feel like this card is probably more fitted for the entire game or series than for Amanda herself, but on the other hand, since this was all created by Amanda it might actually fit her quite a bit. When I read these lines: The World is the last card in the Major Arcana. As such, it embodies the completion of a long, sometimes difficult journey. The World represents all elements coming together in order for us to receive the satisfaction and success for which we've been striving. I immediately had to think of this game where a lot of elements came together and that has also been a difficult journey at times. All in all this card stands for success and fulfillment though, and this has been a great series created and hosted by a great host; that's why I think this card is fitting. Brenda - The EmpressBesides the fact that she gave birth to a child with the guy known as The Emperor, I do see some other similarities between this card and Brenda in the game. In the description, it says the empress is all about love and pleasure. Obviously there was a lot of love between her and me, but also, Brenda is all about having fun in the game, she's real, likes to post the most random videos, and had a very fun approach to the game and the Final Tribal questioning. Chelsea - JusticeI know that Chelsea absolutely hates lying about her vote; in that sense I think what's written about this card is very fitting. The person in this card has a very no-nonsense approach without excuses or wishy washy behavior. I've never seen wishy washy behavior from Chelsea and know her as someone very trustworthy. Also, what's written about the crown in the card reminds me of Chelsea: Lady Justice wearing a crown indicates that she is in a position to calmly and rationally detect what is true and fair. I remember that when her head was on the line, even though she knew chances were very slim she'd survive, she remained calm and realistic. Parvati - The TowerThe Tower card first of all stands for change, a sudden change. Like it or not, but Parvati shook the game up by her move against the alliance of six and changed the game for good. It's also said the tower stands for a not-so pleasant change, and for me personally the change wasn't pleasant. It also stands for movement; Parvati caused movement at several instances. She forced people to make moves at the Final 7 by giving immunity to Michelle for example. Misty - Judgment Misty was very open and honest in this game, and made some judgment calls that she could afford, like openly admitting to people that she didn't want to vote any of the five she had given her word to at the start of the game. It's said that there's no evidence of fear in this card, and Misty knew no fear in this game. She schemed for her survival in the round that she left, and while it became her downfall after all, she was definitely brave and made judgment calls that she believed might take her further. Austin - The SunWhat I learned about Austin this game, is that he is very optimistic and positive. For example when I didn't have time for the storyteller, he still encouraged me to do it and give it a good try. He was also very optimistic about votes and that we'd be able to pull it off, while I was typically very pessimistic. Therefore, I think this sentence definitely fits Austin very well: The sun is pervasive in its power, blazing with its message of vitality, and its presence in our lives equates to life-giving energy. It's also said The Sun illumines the world and makes us see things more clearly, and Austin did that at times with his more positive point of view. Yau-Jess - The PriestessThe Priestess is in a position of knowledge; and Jess obviously had a lot of knowledge, knowing what was going on on all sides of the game. She was close to a lot of people, gained information for herself, and used that knowledge when needed. This sentence in the description reminds me of Jess in this game: She determines the manner in which the knowledge should be expressed, and only she decides to whom, and how much knowledge is extolled. The Priestess also stands for power, and Jess definitely had that in the game. Heidi - The StarThe Star is a card of hope, and given that Heidi was sent to redemption and returned, shows that she never gave up hope. She came back and almost made it all the way to the end. This phrase reminds me of Heidi in this game as well: It is as if she is in an oasis of creative, inspiration that serves as a place of healing and renewal. After she returned, it became a new game for her and her alliance creatively got the numbers on their side by pulling DD and Parvati in. Tracy - LoversI recognize a lot of what's written about this card in the way you played this game. First of all, you have shown a lot of passion and love for the game no matter what it brought at times; you took everything really well. Also, you had a very tight bond with Heidi and Yau, where trust, commitment, and compassion when one was in danger were very important. The nudity in the card is a symbol for vulnerability and complete trust; you were very open in conversations, especially to those you fully trusted. That made you vulnerable at times when the person you trusted had other intentions. Ultimately you showed your ultimate love and respect for Heidi by voting DD at the Final 4. DD - The MagicianAccording to my source, the magician is able to utilize every resource and has absolute power. DD utilized her resources (idol and triple) at the best point in the game for her, and they gave her absolute power in the final four. In other rounds, she's also had quite some power and control over what happened. Furthermore, I think DD has been quite aware of what's been going on in the game and managed to figure out who were the most on the outs within AS2. Awareness is also one of the qualities of the magician, so I feel the magician came closest. Myself - ChariotI would give myself the Emperor card, but even though some of his features correspond to how I did in the challenges, I don't feel that I had enough 'leadership' in this game to be a match with this card. So I went with chariot, as according to my source, it takes a lot of skill, determination, and control to maneuver a chariot. For me, I definitely needed those three things for my immunity wins. It takes drive and focus for the chariot to accomplish his goal and win his battle; I feel I've had the drive to win more than ever as I've wanted to make up for my bowing out in AS2 and get to the end of this really badly.
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Post by Tracy on Nov 7, 2012 21:13:55 GMT -5
Bah i just noticed I said juror not jurors, if you only do one juror I won't take it into account lol
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Post by Brenda Lowe on Nov 7, 2012 22:04:11 GMT -5
That means she wants you to do me And those other sluts, too.
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Post by Pimpthony Robinson on Nov 8, 2012 3:02:13 GMT -5
Oh sorry, misunderstood then; I'll do the rest of the jury later today
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Post by Pimpthony Robinson on Nov 8, 2012 9:44:27 GMT -5
Edited them in so they're all in one post! If you have any further questions let me know.
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Post by DD on Nov 8, 2012 21:59:21 GMT -5
Hey Tracy, thank you for the questions! ...so please enlighten everyone on what You did in this game to get to the end.Well I really don't think that anyone has gotten to the end of the game without allies helping them along the way (except maybe Anthony here ). But honestly, the things that I did personally that got me to the end were earning that triple and that idol. Additionally, I kept up social ties with everyone as much as I could. The thing that I probably did most independently was making a side-alliance with Michelle, but that ultimately amounted to nothing. Ultimately, I can't attribute anything I listed above to helping me get to the end as being as helpful as my alliance with you and Heidi. I would never say I could have done it without you guys. I like depending on my allies to help me in the game, though I think I pulled my own weight in our alliance. I like to think I was just as helpful to you and Heidi earlier in the merge, as you were to me a few rounds later. But even so, the round Parvati left, I could have flipped on you guys with my rewards, but I didn't because we were allies. I think my rewards were important for keeping me as a valuable member of the alliance. I'm sorry if I wasn't rogue enough to earn your vote, I guess. Do you think you'd still be here if you didn't get to use all your prizes at the final four tribal? I think that would have depended on Heidi. I know that if I didn't have my idol, both you and Anthony would have voted for me. I would have had to convince Heidi to vote for you, and it might not have worked without my prizes. If so, we would have gone at a tie-breaker challenge. So I think that I could be here if I didn't get my prizes then, but no doubt the prizes helped! Why should you win over Anthony? I think that my path to the end of the game was pretty rough, and I hope that I'd be commended for making it here. I attended tribal council every round in this game except for two of them, and in one of those rounds in which my tribe had immunity, I lost my closest ally at the time (Kim.) I would say my ability to make it to day 39 despite that is pretty characteristic of a Survivor. Plus, I think it's pretty clear that if Heidi had done the final IC, Anthony wouldn't be here. I know there are a lot of "if this happened, then this would happen" scenarios that could take either of us out of the final 2, but as far as those go this one is pretty clear cut. I would also like to make a bit of a rebuttal to Anthony's statement, if that's okay. I hope you know, Tracy, that I would have done whatever I could to make our 3 the final 3. I was saving our rewards for any round that any of us were on the chopping block, and I wouldn't have thought twice about using my idol to save you or Heidi. Additionally, the round that you left, I had no idea the immunity challenge held so much stake. If I had known Michelle was going to quit, I would have tried to make more time for the challenge to help us win. Unfortunately, my friend was visiting that weekend, so I didn't have time. I wasn't trying to be careless, selfish, or standoffish. Why should Anthony win over me?Contrary to what you said in your questions, I actually think Anthony's immunity run is a great testament to why he should win. Going on a run in ORGs takes a great deal of skill and time, and Anthony has clearly demonstrated how much he cares about the game. I don't really see how his success in immunity challenges could be used against him. I also think he was probably a more valiant in attempts to save his allies. There's just a heroic archetype of how Anthony played this game that is deserving of the win. I will do your Arcana comparisons in the next post
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Post by DD on Nov 10, 2012 9:09:55 GMT -5
Arcana Comparisons Note: Anthony gave some pretty good answers here, so I'm trying best I can not to copy Amanda-JudgmentThe judgment talks a lot about control over life and death, and resurrection. Amanda snuffed a lot of torches in her time in this game, and someone was even killed! :X Additionally, it talks about the power to bring back to life, which is symbolized by Redemption Island. Finally, The Kiss of Life was the answer to word of the round, and I think that fits in well here, too! Brenda-EmpressI know I "copied" Anthony here, but it was really hard not to do. This one is perfectly fitting and I'd be ignorant not to choose it for her. Brenda was nothing short of sexual in this game, and it made her very likable. She certainly had a lot of power in her alliance, and that was a large reason as to why she was targeted first in the merge. Finally, it's no doubt that Brenda is a vision of beauty and desire for everyone in the game. Chelsea-High PriestessThe high-priestess has characteristics of serenity, relationships and common sense, all of which are characteristic of Chelsea. She had a lot of common sense in AS2, and I think that led her to her win, and there's no doubt that same level of wisdom was carried into this game, though it was harder to demonstrate. She used her serenity to create a lot of friendships; I don't think anyone really enjoyed voting her out because she was so nice. Finally, she had her strong relationships with Brenda and Anthony, and was clearly a valuable member of their alliance, and person to them in this game. Parvati-DeathI hope Parvati actually takes the time to read this, because this is not nearly as negative as it probably initially sounded. First of all, as far as I'm aware, this is Parvati's last ORG, so Death is more representative of the end of this chapter in her life than anything else. It's the conclusion of a cycle, really. Additionally, the Death card can represent the ending of a relationship, which is sort of how Parvati and I were in this game. I really screwed up, and if there's anything I regret it's lying to her about her going home in this game. I really do value Parvati's friendship, and if I could go back I would change just that. It was pretty shitty of me. Misty-The StarAs soon as I read this description, I thought of Misty. Some of the key words used here were free-flowing love, renewal of forces and trust. In terms of free-flowing love, I don't think that Misty is bitter or angry about her elimination. She plays these games for fun and truly loves most of the people she plays with. I think that's a great quality in an ORG player. As for renewal of forces, the round Misty was voted out was crazy hard, because when she was down and out, she would constantly redefine her strategy to help herself stay. It was working until about 30 minutes before the deadline. This sort of leads into trust, which is what Misty gave me in order to help her stay. It was going to work, until Yau, Tracy, Heidi and I got into a chat right before deadline and reaffirmed our alliance. But yeah, Misty is nothing short of a star. Austin-The Hanged ManThis has more to do with Austin's elimination round than anything else. Because that round was such a clusterfuck of BS, it's needless to say that the word sacrifice is easily the most representative of his undoing in this game. However, talking to him on AIM shortly thereafter, he also showed characteristics of acceptance and passivity toward what happened. Yau-Jess-HierophantI think Yau-Jess fits the Hierophant card well, because it talks about their social convention, deception, knowledge and power. Socially, Yau was one of the best there is. She had great connections across the board and used her alliances and knowledge to accrue a wealth of knowledge. That, in conjunction with her power, represented by her rewards, made her nearly impossible to send home once we hit merge. Additionally, she didn't lke to lie, but definitely would if it would protect herself or her allies, and was very good at it to boot. Tracy-SunI think the sun's optimism is representative of your attitude during this game. You were always looking toward the best possible outlet to further yourself and your allies. You were kind-hearted towards those who were good to you, and bold against those who went against you or your allies. This is by no means sucking up, but you definitely helped light up this game for me. Heidi-MagicianThe magician uses the key words of action, focus and self-confidence, which I think represent Heidi in this game. Heidi's most definitive round was the double tribal, in which I was going to be blindsided. She took action, and told me to play my idol to save myself. Then, when she heard what had happened regarding all the controversy, she was confident in herself and in her judgment and reported to Amanda what had happened. I think that took a lot of courage, because Heidi doesn't like to go against her friends. Finally, her focus is representative of her coming back from redemption island. Anthony-StrengthAnthony represented strength in this game like none other. Modern interpretations relate strength to being internal, which I think is representative of Anthony's immunity run. He was able to be focused and determined, and draw power from within to win all of those challenges. DD-Wheel of FortuneI think this card fits me well because of the key words associated with it. It talks about possibilities, new developments and turning points. I think my awareness in the game definitely allowed me to remain keen to new possibilities in the game. I was always looking at new developments in my relationships, and when turning points in the game took place, I was always thinking of where to strike next. Finally, I think Wheel of Fortune implies a bit of luck, which would be involved with me keeping my prizes at the final 4.
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